Member-nominated trustees: Making a difference

Hope William-Smith
clock • 12 min read

Key points

At a glance

  • Trustees of all kinds report they are happy in their position
  • However, MNTs in particular have long been pilloried over technical shortcomings
  • But their soft skills and member-centric position is vital to a Covid-19 world

Hope William-Smith looks at what draws and keeps member-nominated trustees (MNTs) in the industry’s most altruistic role as the challenges continue to mount.

"There's nothing like a pandemic to keep pension trustees on their toes," Stuart Southall remarked in a September column. At the heart of the Punter Southall co-founder's words was his observation that MNTs are "the only people who can truly think like a member" for a scheme. No doubt, he said, this has served many well throughout the ups and downs that have marred 2020.

"The MNTs I work with are coping just fine," he wrote of trustees' experiences throughout Covid-19.

"Losing that completely may make the job harder for the remaining trustees, particularly at a complex and difficult time like we're in now."

At the start of last November, after seven months with coronavirus, PP asked its eligible readers to reflect on a simple question: Are you happy in your role as a trustee? Among the 92% of respondents who said ‘yes' were a range of comments espousing the fulfilment, sense of purpose, and general satisfaction the role provides.

For at least a third of all boards' trustees, those who function in a lay capacity, this is the only remuneration. To BESTrustees president Alan Pickering, MNTs represent "the salt of the earth", an irreplaceable and humanistic centre to a scheme's board. At a time where understanding and reassuring members has never been a more poignant and pressing priority, he says MNTs hold a crucial card for schemes' success in 2021.

A shifting world

Like all workers, trustees could not have foreseen that the majority of this year would require them to swap out face-to-face gatherings for online meetings while still achieving best outcomes for savers under growing regulatory pressure to not slip on standards.

While one trustee respondent said they could "become ‘Zoom-ed' out before long", many are pushing on with the challenges, which have already stretched over continuous months.

"It's always interesting being a trustee and it is satisfying contributing towards helping members," one said.

Another added: "As an MNT, I enjoy the role particularly when helping past colleagues and participating in meetings and subcommittee work."

"I enjoy making a difference," said one respondent. "Experience and common sense can support the aims of the pension scheme in the interest of the members."

Meet the MNT: Richard Helyer, Canada Life UK Staff Pension Scheme

Scheme value: Approx. £400m

How long have you been a trustee? 12 years

What was your main motivation? To help members, get involved in the running of the scheme and its investments, and to help improve my understanding and that of the membership regarding pension provisions and improve retirement expectations.

What do you enjoy most? Interacting with the membership and looking at situations from the members' perspective. Also, helping members and spouses navigate the challenges of pension documentation and understanding.

What aspect is most challenging? Keeping up with all the regulations and changes, and most currently, guaranteed minimum pension equalisation and reconciliation.

What do you anticipate for 2021? Increased work on GMP equalisation, along with repairing the Covid-19 impact on funds, and progressing with ESG and responsible investment strategies. How would you like to see the role of lay trustees develop in the future? More respect for their involvement with basic agreed qualifying requirements such as TPR's toolkit and minimum continuing professional development (CPD) training.

 

"It's certainly interesting because it's always changing," stated another. "Also worrying, because of the increase in regulations."

Indeed, increased pressure from The Pensions Regulator (TPR) and stifling red tape have already seen many a talented trustee throw in the towel, Pickering warns.

MNTs are most at risk as technical requirements skyrocket for schemes of all types, sizes, and maturity stages.

Long-anticipated breakthroughs for professionalising trusteeship also peaked this year with the launch of two, rather than the expected one, professional trustee accreditation regimes - one each from the Association of Professional Pension Trustees and the Pensions Management Institute.

This has driven a further wedge between professional and lay trustees.

"It's the job of people like me, particularly when I'm chairing a trustee board, to persuade MNTs to hang on in there, even if the going gets tough," Pickering says. "Most of them are very altruistic and really want to put something back into society and therefore we must reward them for their commitment, rather than demonise them for their lack of technical skills.".

Meet the MNT: Leslie Gillanders, AIB Group UK DC Scheme

Scheme value: £175m

How long have you been a trustee? Nine years

What was your main motivation? I always had an interest in Pensions and felt I could assist my employer AIB,  with my skills and insurance background I could enhance the Trustee board. I feel it's important to encourage and engage the staff of all ages to maximise their outcomes at retirement.

What do you enjoy most? Having served on various sub committees I enjoy the investment side of pensions as well as the ever increasing focus on sustainability and the increasing technology available to allow members have easy sight of their pension in all stages of their journey pre and post retirement.

What aspect is most challenging? It would be the ever increasing regulation being imposed on schemes which places greater responsibilities not just on Pension boards but on the trustee's themselves. Over my time I've seen so many requirements placed on trustees which requires more time, work and increased commitment.

What do you anticipate for 2021? More of the same as 2020, but more regulation being imposed, greater focus on ESG and the need to further demonstrate value to members.

How would you like to see the role of lay trustees develop in the future? To be given greater recognition for what they do and the commitment they make to boards as the vast majority of Trustee's take their role very seriously.

Despite some denunciation, the Association of Member Nominated Trustees (AMNT) co-chairman David Weeks says MNTs spend an approximate average of 12 years on boards. 

When the AMNT asked its members to document their working patterns, the majority reported more than double the expected annual time commitment.

"This could include keeping up to date with background reading on pensions generally, and then any sort of technical continuing professional development work," he says

"With the benefit of hindsight, we didn't ask them with high enough band options for hours; the biggest was ‘30 hours or more', which was a high expectation. Almost all of them spend 30 hours plus every year on their main trustee role alongside their regular job."

While MNTs are no doubt "highly altruistic" in Pickering's words, the commitment to the role has taken a sharp turn in light of the difficulties of 2020.

Moving into next year, both Pickering and Weeks expect recruitment will be on a downwards slide with a busy legislative horizon and the impending climax of Brexit impacts.

"One of the worst experiences of my working life has been to see really good pension professionals throwing in the towel because of the complex legislative and regulatory framework within which they have to operate," Pickering says. "If the professional consultant finds that web of legislation off-putting, just think about how it looks to the nature of the MNT. We have to make sure that there is less prescriptive and less intrusive legislation and regulation." 

Meet the MNT: Susan Sillience, National Union of Teachers Staff Superannuation Fund

How long have you been a trustee? Since 1990.

What was your main motivation? I felt that I could put my interest in and knowledge of pensions to good use on behalf of those who were working or had worked for the Union and their survivors.

What do you enjoy most? Expanding my understanding of both investment and all the regulations that govern pension schemes by attending training (online or before Covid-19 in person) and applying that to our scheme.

What aspect is most challenging? Being sure that I am exercising my discretion fairly and appropriately when dealing with tricky individual issues.

What do you anticipate for 2021? More changes and challenges ahead.

How would you like to see the role of lay trustees develop in the future? I would like to see an enhanced role for lay trustees in all kinds of occupational pension schemes, including superfunds and master trusts, with support from TPR.

To make this possible I would like to see the Pensions Regulator do more to value and support lay trustees. I am now retired, but while working I would have valued having a legal right or at least a code of practice providing paid time off for a specific number of days' training a year.  We are all so committed to our jobs that we are disinclined to ask for time off when it would leave our colleagues under increased pressure, but a legal right to paid time off would help in negotiating compensatory staffing to cover for our essential duties.

He adds that boards risk losing sight of "the main event" while making sure they comply with regulators' "well-intentioned interventions".

"The main event is simply to pay the right amount to the right person at the right time," Pickering says. "It is very simple, and legislation should be equally simple".

The AMNT - which is comprised of around 66% defined benefit (DB) MNTs and 33% defined contribution (DC) MNTs - has found a particular concern for DB boards.

"Of course, DB schemes tend to be moving towards some sort of endgame, so that that's a hindrance to recruiting members - the thought that it's a limited role," Weeks notes.

"That may suit some, but most MNTs are looking to make a longstanding and valuable commitment."

Bright future

Despite some setbacks for MNTs and one of the strongest calls yet for an overhaul of the role last year, Pickering hopes "more of the same" will define the future of the role.

"An MNT needs to be bright, but not technical, say educated, particularly in today's world, where trustees are increasingly responsible for supervising subcontracted experts," he says.

"Many have the capacity for this role. We just need to provide them with enough pensions knowledge, so that they can then deploy the skills they bring from their day jobs for the interest of the pension scheme."

One of the key roles MNTs have played across many boards is pushing ESG and responsible investment issues to the fore, Weeks adds.

"MNTs have been very instrumental in pushing up that up the agenda, and it's what people want to invest in," he says.

Meet the MNT: Maggie Rodger, Church of England Pensions Board

Scheme value: Multiple schemes totalling £2.8bn

How long have you been a trustee? Since 2016 for this board What was your main motivation? I was just interested in the subject and intrigued to know more.

What do you enjoy most? The issues to deal with, while ostensibly the same, are always different each year as schemes develop, more regulation is introduced, and the world of communications, technology, investment and the world in general keeps changing. Almost every meeting I feel I have learned something new or seen it from a new perspective.

What aspect is most challenging? My particular focus is currently on risk management: being aware of what is happening within the organisation and in the industry and regulation, in cyberspace, and then with the effects of a world pandemic. In all this it is a constant challenge to keep the trustee focus at the right overarching level, while having an understanding of the issues, and an open mind to be aware of new things happening around us.

What do you anticipate for 2021? I am looking forward to seeing collective defined contribution schemes emerge following the Pension Schemes Bill. I think they will open up new options which are better than those currently faced by members who need to manage their own pensions pot at retirement. I am also very encouraged by the increased attention to ESG and climate change risks and impact by both pension trustees and their members.

How would like to see the role of lay trustees develop in the future? Sometimes it is the "why do we do things this way?" question from a lay trustee, or their experience from a different skillset which opens up a new possibility. However lay trustees do need to be able to develop skills, confidence to take part in the discussions, and to absorb the enormous volumes of information behind decisions. I hope there will be a renewed focus on helping them develop.

 

"They're not specialists in investment, not specialists in the actuarial view, but they have a sort of broad perspective which allows them to bring these various factors into some sort of overall context which is not overwhelmed by their specific role on the board, in the way of a professional trustee."

MNTs will have a key role to play with the uncertain economic horizons ahead for 2021; a raft of changes is on the cards for trustees and boards through the Pensions Schemes Bill, heralding a new chapter in relations with TPR. Small DC schemes will face pressure to consolidate, while master trusts and superfunds are set to make big waves in narrowing the industry.

"Professional trustees who take the view that the MNTs are substandard and just turn up for meetings for lunch and don't really contribute very much have a very short-sighted view," Weeks says.

"But, this year does show that MNTs have their strong place. Naysayers must think if they can really afford to ditch these capable and efficient and deciduous individuals who have got a strong record of great work.

"I think a fair number of people in the across the industry do agree with their value, and so hopefully that will prevail," he concludes.

"The price of a lay trustee is beyond value", Pickering agrees. "Because their value is beyond calculation."

Not for the fainthearted

Being a trustee has always been a demanding role, never more so than today, says Joanne Segars. With an increasing volume of legislation and growing regulatory scrutiny, pension trusteeship isn't for the fainthearted. But does that mean there's no role for member-nominated trustees? Absolutely not, in my view. Of course, all trustees are there to protect the interests of members and beneficiaries. MNTs have a really important role to play, not least ensuring there is diversity on the board, an ability to take a 360° view and to ask the difficult questions. In my experience, MNTs can be some of the most engaged and informed trustees, with a close connection to the membership - important when we're thinking about how to communicate. The challenge for us all - whether professional, employer or membernominated - is to ensure that we stay on top of our game, stay informed and up-to-date. 

Joanne Segars is chairwoman at LGPS Central

Key points

At a glance

  • Trustees of all kinds report they are happy in their position
  • However, MNTs in particular have long been pilloried over technical shortcomings
  • But their soft skills and member-centric position is vital to a Covid-19 world

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